1 00:00:16,790 --> 00:00:13,669 in september of 1953 for about eight or 2 00:00:18,310 --> 00:00:16,800 nine ounces of pure tin fell out of one 3 00:00:20,470 --> 00:00:18,320 of these things which was evidently in 4 00:00:22,710 --> 00:00:20,480 difficulty a very low allergen over the 5 00:00:26,390 --> 00:00:22,720 residential section of campana which is 6 00:00:29,109 --> 00:00:26,400 about uh 250 miles inland from uh 7 00:00:32,389 --> 00:00:29,119 from sao paulo i believe 8 00:00:34,229 --> 00:00:32,399 uh the government collected this tin 9 00:00:36,709 --> 00:00:34,239 and closed off the neighborhood until he 10 00:00:38,229 --> 00:00:36,719 got it it got over roof tops bird holes 11 00:00:40,389 --> 00:00:38,239 and clothing and everything else it was 12 00:00:42,869 --> 00:00:40,399 dribbling out of out of the edge of one 13 00:00:57,110 --> 00:00:42,879 of these uh so-called saucers well i had 14 00:01:00,549 --> 00:00:58,630 was one of those who 15 00:01:02,630 --> 00:01:00,559 analyzed the stuff well i understand 16 00:01:04,469 --> 00:01:02,640 that the brazilian government does admit 17 00:01:05,509 --> 00:01:04,479 there are flying churches which is 18 00:01:07,590 --> 00:01:05,519 probably 19 00:01:09,510 --> 00:01:07,600 the only government that does it i think 20 00:01:20,789 --> 00:01:09,520 you're right about it 21 00:01:24,630 --> 00:01:23,030 he was in the presence of the guy that 22 00:01:27,910 --> 00:01:24,640 runs brazil 23 00:01:29,270 --> 00:01:27,920 and he had seen pictures of flying stuff 24 00:01:29,990 --> 00:01:29,280 and i believe 25 00:01:32,149 --> 00:01:30,000 that 26 00:01:33,830 --> 00:01:32,159 well i'm sure they have motion pictures 27 00:01:35,910 --> 00:01:33,840 and they certainly know they do and they 28 00:01:37,990 --> 00:01:35,920 because they were taken by an official 29 00:01:41,109 --> 00:01:38,000 photographer for the brazilian fleet 30 00:01:43,190 --> 00:01:41,119 about two years ago they got uh yes 31 00:01:44,710 --> 00:01:43,200 they got 35 millimeter motion pictures 32 00:01:48,469 --> 00:01:44,720 and they got a lot of color pictures i 33 00:01:51,670 --> 00:01:50,630 moving along over the mountains along 34 00:01:53,429 --> 00:01:51,680 the coast 35 00:01:55,670 --> 00:01:53,439 and the brazilian government was quite 36 00:01:57,670 --> 00:01:55,680 uh franklin state that this is an 37 00:01:59,670 --> 00:01:57,680 unidentified flying object 38 00:02:01,670 --> 00:01:59,680 and of course it was only one of several 39 00:02:05,510 --> 00:02:01,680 now did you read the report in state 40 00:02:12,620 --> 00:02:05,520 magazine of the new guinea sightings 41 00:02:12,630 --> 00:02:35,110 [Music] 42 00:02:39,509 --> 00:02:37,509 uh decision where button and that's 43 00:02:41,430 --> 00:02:39,519 absolutely what he's saying because 44 00:02:44,869 --> 00:02:41,440 not only did he see it 45 00:02:45,830 --> 00:02:44,879 but uh 30 or 40 of his flocks are with 46 00:02:47,830 --> 00:02:45,840 it 47 00:02:50,470 --> 00:02:47,840 i have a copy of that original report 48 00:02:53,030 --> 00:02:50,480 which runs to several uh 49 00:02:55,190 --> 00:02:53,040 space type written pages and of course 50 00:02:56,869 --> 00:02:55,200 considerably more 51 00:02:58,309 --> 00:02:56,879 in detail than what they present in the 52 00:03:00,390 --> 00:02:58,319 magazine and of course there's the other 53 00:03:02,149 --> 00:03:00,400 story of the priest who saw the flying 54 00:03:05,589 --> 00:03:02,159 saucer that was called the vatican to 55 00:03:08,710 --> 00:03:05,599 report on it yeah uh i think it was in 56 00:03:11,030 --> 00:03:08,720 italy i might be mistaken about it 57 00:03:13,670 --> 00:03:11,040 quite a few sightings over in italy and 58 00:03:15,350 --> 00:03:13,680 some very good ones uh i mean there must 59 00:03:31,350 --> 00:03:15,360 have been some phony first guys leaving 60 00:03:35,430 --> 00:03:33,509 oh yes and every one of those states is 61 00:03:37,430 --> 00:03:35,440 nothing but a and also the one over 62 00:03:39,670 --> 00:03:37,440 atlantic city yeah and how they pull a 63 00:03:41,350 --> 00:03:39,680 plate out the window you know the ones 64 00:03:43,030 --> 00:03:41,360 over ohio over the steel mill are 65 00:03:43,990 --> 00:03:43,040 reflections between the elements of the 66 00:03:45,830 --> 00:03:44,000 land 67 00:03:47,430 --> 00:03:45,840 and each bright light has a little 68 00:03:49,270 --> 00:03:47,440 spacecraft on the opposite side of the 69 00:03:50,789 --> 00:03:49,280 negative pointing directly at it but 70 00:03:54,070 --> 00:03:50,799 they seem to have an affinity for a 71 00:03:57,670 --> 00:03:54,080 bright light i think probably the uh 72 00:04:00,789 --> 00:03:57,680 most believable manifestation of sources 73 00:04:04,229 --> 00:04:00,799 was the motion picture in the picture uh 74 00:04:05,670 --> 00:04:04,239 i think what it's called closest or ufo 75 00:04:07,910 --> 00:04:05,680 i believe in this i think you're talking 76 00:04:08,949 --> 00:04:07,920 about the uh over the ball taken by this 77 00:04:11,429 --> 00:04:08,959 uh 78 00:04:13,429 --> 00:04:11,439 great falls montana yeah and then the 79 00:04:15,910 --> 00:04:13,439 movie is taken over the desert by uh 80 00:04:18,629 --> 00:04:15,920 delver new house this uh 81 00:04:21,349 --> 00:04:18,639 well we only had uh uh 82 00:04:23,590 --> 00:04:21,359 one uh i think it was the motion picture 83 00:04:24,950 --> 00:04:23,600 of the side closest flying over the ball 84 00:04:27,430 --> 00:04:24,960 field 85 00:04:28,870 --> 00:04:27,440 and uh if i remember correctly it went 86 00:04:29,830 --> 00:04:28,880 behind the 87 00:04:31,030 --> 00:04:29,840 uh 88 00:04:34,150 --> 00:04:31,040 or something 89 00:04:36,390 --> 00:04:34,160 don't think they showed the other ones 90 00:04:38,070 --> 00:04:36,400 that you speak of well they were very 91 00:04:40,070 --> 00:04:38,080 good they were taken in 16 millimeter 92 00:04:53,670 --> 00:04:40,080 color by delbert new house a navy war 93 00:04:57,430 --> 00:04:55,189 no they were in some 94 00:05:00,070 --> 00:04:57,440 well now i'll tell you uh strange things 95 00:05:02,310 --> 00:05:00,080 happened one time and uh as much as i 96 00:05:04,310 --> 00:05:02,320 hate to do this i can't mention the guy 97 00:05:06,710 --> 00:05:04,320 that we called up 98 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:06,720 but it did but that has nothing to do 99 00:05:28,930 --> 00:05:36,150 [Music] 100 00:05:41,670 --> 00:05:38,950 and we call the guy up and the guy said 101 00:05:43,670 --> 00:05:41,680 to eddie now look don't get me in this 102 00:05:45,350 --> 00:05:43,680 thing i don't want to get near it it's 103 00:05:46,390 --> 00:05:45,360 too hot down here i don't want to handle 104 00:05:47,830 --> 00:05:46,400 it 105 00:05:50,950 --> 00:05:47,840 and you might as well forget about the 106 00:05:53,590 --> 00:05:50,960 project you'll get no cooperation 107 00:05:55,590 --> 00:05:53,600 and uh hung up the phone and he looked 108 00:05:57,110 --> 00:05:55,600 at me and he repeated what the guy said 109 00:05:58,469 --> 00:05:57,120 to him on the phone because i could hear 110 00:06:00,469 --> 00:05:58,479 him 111 00:06:01,430 --> 00:06:00,479 and he looked at me he said how about 112 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:01,440 that 113 00:06:09,490 --> 00:06:18,710 [Music] 114 00:06:23,270 --> 00:06:21,029 in july these uh so-called flying 115 00:06:25,350 --> 00:06:23,280 saucers were over washington 116 00:06:27,270 --> 00:06:25,360 they were all in love with that 117 00:06:29,749 --> 00:06:27,280 but what most people don't know is that 118 00:06:32,309 --> 00:06:29,759 on august the 13th just uh 119 00:06:34,309 --> 00:06:32,319 three weeks later there were 68 of them 120 00:06:36,790 --> 00:06:34,319 over washington at one time on that 121 00:06:38,710 --> 00:06:36,800 night i was right there in washington at 122 00:06:40,950 --> 00:06:38,720 the time i was on the mutual network i 123 00:06:42,710 --> 00:06:40,960 had excellent contact but the land of 124 00:06:44,550 --> 00:06:42,720 censorship was so tight that i knew 125 00:06:46,790 --> 00:06:44,560 nothing about this i'm sure that no 126 00:06:49,029 --> 00:06:46,800 other news men knew it either and i knew 127 00:06:51,510 --> 00:06:49,039 nothing about it until two years later 128 00:06:54,390 --> 00:06:51,520 when i happened uh through a friendly 129 00:06:56,550 --> 00:06:54,400 official of the caa i got a copy of a 130 00:06:59,589 --> 00:06:56,560 document which they printed how to 131 00:07:01,589 --> 00:06:59,599 identify and track uh unidentified 132 00:07:03,830 --> 00:07:01,599 flying objects and this was put out to 133 00:07:06,070 --> 00:07:03,840 radar-controlled men and pilots and 134 00:07:08,070 --> 00:07:06,080 others and in there they list all these 135 00:07:12,870 --> 00:07:08,080 68 objects that were over washington on 136 00:07:15,270 --> 00:07:12,880 that one night august 13th 1952. 137 00:07:17,510 --> 00:07:15,280 uh are we on 138 00:07:19,510 --> 00:07:17,520 uh to those that may be listening to us 139 00:07:21,990 --> 00:07:19,520 a couple of minutes ago uh jackie 140 00:07:24,230 --> 00:07:22,000 gleason was talking on our beaver phone 141 00:07:26,230 --> 00:07:24,240 set up with frank edwards it's my still 142 00:07:27,909 --> 00:07:26,240 their father yes he's still here but he 143 00:07:29,670 --> 00:07:27,919 will be listening on the can